
about their debut,
The whole album can be downloaded for free here or streamed online here. Please do take a listen. Kaenor and the band were very careful to not only make the music good, but that the lyrics and music would glorify God.
Kae: Yes. She is not very confident in her ability to
play, and generally really prefers to play a secondary role in the overall
sound of the band. At least what she
considers secondary, because what she is adding in invaluable.
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Me: Let’s go to
“Valley.” You sing this one, not rap it.
Kae: Yeah, it was
really too pretty of a song to do otherwise.
I really like it. Morelle did a
fantastic job on this one.
Me: Lady Morelle’s
role in the band is most often in the background.

Me: How can we tell
what she is playing?
Kae: She does all
piano parts, for one. But primarily,
what she is playing is the organ or synth sounds with sustained notes. In the instrumentals, she will usually play
the counter-melodies while Steve plays the primarily melody and I play the bass
part.
Me: So she’s is
putting in the solid texture in the back of the song that fills out the chords.
Kae: Exactly.
Me: Which is almost
this entire song.
Kae: Right. She is playing several parts of this
one. Most notable was the piano solo,
which took me a week to convince her to do, but I’m glad I did, because she
just nailed it.
Me: It’s very
pretty.
Kae: Absolutely. The piano in the chorus really transformed
the song too. Actually, all of my favorite
parts to this tune are played by Morelle, and it turned out so much better than
my original demo.
Me: Did you watch
the video of when I played this one at the church cookout?
Kae: Yeah, that
turned out nice.
Me: I didn’t have a
monitor, so most of what I played that evening was only acoustic guitar. Trying to play with the background when it I
didn’t have a monitor turned out to be rather difficult.
Kae: I didn’t
notice.
Me: Good, because I
certainly did. I had a hard time keeping
the beat, so at times I really had to stop playing guitar for a second and just
listen to the music behind me.
Kae: It sounded
fine. It was also the first time one of
our songs was performed live in the real world.
Me: Really? Yeah, I guess it would have been.
Kae: Well, I was
pleased with it.
Me: Thanks! But back to where we started on this song before
I sidetracked us – this is also the only song on the album without a rap.
Kae: Right. Like I said before, we were an instrumental
band a long time before we were able to add vocals at all. It is not important to us whether we are
playing hip hop or rock or pop or whatever, we primarily think in terms of what
the instruments are doing, so I tend to write the vocals to fit in with the
music and not the other way around. I
wanted this song on the album to drive home the point to those who are just
starting to listen to us – we are not really a rap band. We’re a band that utilizes rap a lot because
it works with our sound, but we’re more interested in the sound itself.
Me: And an actual
sung melody was the most appropriate addition to this music.
Kae: Right. It was also important at this point in the
album to drive the doctrine home. We
started off speaking of sovereignty theologically, and we began to apply it to
life in “Cross,” but here it becomes personal.
Me: And for that
you turn to Job as your inspiration.
Kae: Job and the
Psalms. There’s a few references in the
Psalms in there – the valley, miry clay, that sort of thing.
Me: The song tells
a story of the narrator being in a place where he doesn’t really understand
what God is doing, and he’s crying out for help.
Kae: Right. And that’s a critical thing to understand
when we are talking about God’s sovereignty.
It’s an easy thing to say that God is in control and that He works all
things for the good for His children.
These things are true. But what
does that mean when you have, like Job, lost everything, and you don’t know
where this is going. There are a lot of
people in Christianity that will dismiss the emotions that go along with that
place, but those emotions are very biblical.
Me: When I was teenager,
I had a Christian tell me that if I was ever sad, ever, it meant that I wasn’t
saved. As someone who struggled with
depression, that made an impact.
Kae: Yeah, that sort
of thinking is simply unbiblical. If you
read the Psalms to that person without telling her what they were, she would
have told you that half of them were written by non-Christians. Just read them. The psalmists were struggling through some
amazing emotions at times.
Me: You have to
reminders in the song of God’s sovereignty.
Kae: Right. The last verse is turning point of the
song. It’s a reminder of something that
Job didn’t know would happen – that God Himself in flesh would go through the
same pain and the same struggles, that He would take those things upon
Himself. “For we do not have a high
priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every
respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.”
Me: Which is one of
the passages you quote at the end of the song.
Why did you do that?
Kae: Because the
song goes back to the chorus after the verse about Jesus, and I didn’t want to
end it on a note of sadness. I debated
this one, but decided that, since we are talking about sovereignty, that it was
important to let the last word be one of hope.
So we put in some direct quotations from Hebrews and Romans.
Me: I criticized DC
Talk for ending on a sad note in “The Hardway.”
Kae: See, I don’t
think that was a problem, really. There
are Psalms that end in very dark places.
We don’t want every song to be like that, but they are there, in the
Bible, so we should not make it a rule that everything has to end looking
up. In this case though, I decided that
it was important.
Me: Was this the
“single” of the album? The album to rope
in the CCM crowd into download the album then surprising them with a bunch of
rap?
Kae: [laughs] Yeah, I guess. But between you and me, I think “Robot” is
way better.
Me: For those who
are in a valley, what do you recommend to them?
Kae: First of all,
if you are not in one now, you probably will be one day. Use the good days to lay a foundation of good
doctrine for yourself. Study the nature
of God and His promises. Get to know Him
and His ways. Then, once you are there,
go back to those passages and remind yourself of what God has promised for
you. If you want proof of His trustworthiness,
look to the Cross. There is the proof of
His love. But don’t deny that you have
times of mourning. Let yourself mourn. Let yourself cry. But we don’t have to do those things as one
who has no hope. We cry as those who are
on a hard road, but know that there is a warm inn and a fire already made for
us, with a hot meal and good beer waiting for our arrival. All that does not make the road smooth, but
it makes the bumps more bearable.